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RE: Message From Mod MMG - Alex - 2013-09-26
(2013-09-26 09:06:30)Wader Wrote: Dont really get how this is going to work in any of the ways jagex described.
The only thing i can see happening is people just buying gp from jagex, which is worse than from the gold farmers cause its magically being spawned in the game.
No gp is being spawned, players dictate the value of bonds and transfer the cash between themselves.
(2013-09-26 09:06:30)Wader Wrote: It could also mean less money from membership for jagex depending on how much these things are selling for in-game. If the players truly are setting the price then thats probably going to be the case.
Jagex still set the irl value for bonds and you still require membership to access game features so this makes no difference.
(2013-09-26 09:06:30)Wader Wrote: Not sure jagex have quite grasped the idea of a money sink yet either...
To make bonds retradable you need to pay 10% of the value of the bond.
RE: Message From Mod MMG - Smith - 2013-09-26
I'm quite curious how prices of -for example- torva will go. As now people will be able to buy bonds that they could sell for RSGP and get their long dreamed for items. So more demand for those items gets higher prices?
RE: Message From Mod MMG - Wader - 2013-09-26
(2013-09-26 09:33:00)Alex Wrote:(2013-09-26 09:06:30)Wader Wrote: Dont really get how this is going to work in any of the ways jagex described.
The only thing i can see happening is people just buying gp from jagex, which is worse than from the gold farmers cause its magically being spawned in the game.
No gp is being spawned, players dictate the value of bonds and transfer the cash between themselves.
But you can buy the bonds for irl money, which you can redeem into gp?
(2013-09-26 09:33:00)Alex Wrote:(2013-09-26 09:06:30)Wader Wrote: It could also mean less money from membership for jagex depending on how much these things are selling for in-game. If the players truly are setting the price then thats probably going to be the case.
Jagex still set the irl value for bonds and you still require membership to access game features so this makes no difference.
What if you just kept funding membership through the bonds using in-game money, then jagex arn't getting any money (or at least less money)? Even if its 100m for a week of mems. People do that in a day, easily. A nex drop is like wat, 1 in ~14 kills? for people who PvM thats not hard to do
(2013-09-26 09:33:00)Alex Wrote:(2013-09-26 09:06:30)Wader Wrote: Not sure jagex have quite grasped the idea of a money sink yet either...
To make bonds retradable you need to pay 10% of the value of the bond.
you can buy bonds for irl money, so your magically spawning gp (see above) Its not a money sink if your taking 10% off magically spawned items.
RE: Message From Mod MMG - Tay - 2013-09-26
In theory the idea sounds excellent, but I'm not so sure the result will be as intended. I've never been a fan of micro-transactions and I'm not convinced that implementing this will actually rid the game of gold farmers. It will be interesting to see what value bonds will eventually hold - especially since their worth will be controlled by the player base.
RE: Message From Mod MMG - Angus - 2013-09-26
(2013-09-26 09:44:24)Wader Wrote:(2013-09-26 09:33:00)Alex Wrote:(2013-09-26 09:06:30)Wader Wrote: Dont really get how this is going to work in any of the ways jagex described.
The only thing i can see happening is people just buying gp from jagex, which is worse than from the gold farmers cause its magically being spawned in the game.
No gp is being spawned, players dictate the value of bonds and transfer the cash between themselves.
But you can buy the bonds for irl money, which you can redeem into gp?
It's not redeeming, when you buy a bond, jagex puts the bond in your invent, which you can sell on the ge for cash, no extra money comes into the game.
(2013-09-26 09:44:24)Wader Wrote:(2013-09-26 09:33:00)Alex Wrote:(2013-09-26 09:06:30)Wader Wrote: It could also mean less money from membership for jagex depending on how much these things are selling for in-game. If the players truly are setting the price then thats probably going to be the case.
Jagex still set the irl value for bonds and you still require membership to access game features so this makes no difference.
What if you just kept funding membership through the bonds using in-game money, then jagex arn't getting any money (or at least less money)? Even if its 100m for a week of mems. People do that in a day, easily. A nex drop is like wat, 1 in ~14 kills? for people who PvM thats not hard to do
This won't decrease the amount of membership being bought though, the same amount of total membership is being bought, so for example, 10k members = $50k/month right? So that could be 1000 people paying $50 each and selling $45 worth of bonds on the ge, or w/e, but the total amount of membership purchased doesn't decrease.
(2013-09-26 09:44:24)Wader Wrote:(2013-09-26 09:33:00)Alex Wrote:(2013-09-26 09:06:30)Wader Wrote: Not sure jagex have quite grasped the idea of a money sink yet either...
To make bonds retradable you need to pay 10% of the value of the bond.
you can buy bonds for irl money, so your magically spawning gp (see above) Its not a money sink if your taking 10% off magically spawned items.
Each time the bond is made retradeable it takes 10% of the value from the game, because gold isn't magically spawned, it actually is a money sink :O
RE: Message From Mod MMG - Wader - 2013-09-26
K gotcha. Jagex made it sound like you could just turn the bond into any item, rather than you having to sell it for gp, then buy w/e else with that gp. They also made it sound like you could purchase them originally for in-game money
RE: Message From Mod MMG - Dave - 2013-09-26
(2013-09-26 15:43:41)Wader Wrote: K gotcha. Jagex made it sound like you could just turn the bond into any item, rather than you having to sell it for gp, then buy w/e else with that gp. They also made it sound like you could purchase them originally for in-game money
Yeah, that'd be pretty lousy. They can be used to get spins or runecoins or extend membership, which is why people would be willing to pay gp for them.