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Macro - avoiding false accusations - old_jon - 2011-07-22 Reason for thread/post: To discuss how to play Runescape normally whilst minimising the risk of being falsely accused of using a macro. Background: I have had my account suspended whilst being falsely accused of breaking the macro law. If it can happen to me then it can happen to anyone! THE RULES Quote:Macroing, and use of bots or third-party software Effective date: 12th May 2009 What to do/avoid: 1. Do not engage in "gold farming/botting" activites. Very hard to do if that activity is the most suitable for your circumstances, and in any case, bots seem to be everywhere doing everything. Eg. Living Rock Cavern, Ivy, Sorceress Garden, rune essence. 2. If you decide to engage in the same activity used by gold farmers and bots then you need to behave differently. The easiest thing is to simply talk. Chat to others around you. They're the ones who are going to report you. If chatting isn't your thing, then I suggest behaving differently to the bots, minimise the time spent on an activity, mix it up a bit. 3. Avoid 24hour beasting, or playing unusual times of the day, or an unusually long period of time. If you have been falsely accused: Don't panic. Read everything carefully, follow instructions carefully, be honest in your appeal, and be patient. A JMod will review your appeal and quash it if you are innocent. For me this happenned within a day. example of my appeal:- "please investigate fully as I don't even know how to macro let alone use one in the first place. Someone must have reported me in error". Finally, the reprieve: Keep trying to logon or alternatively check the "account" section of the Runescape site. Hopefully you'll get the good news that the accusation has been quashed. Reflection: Whilst initially insanely angry, I now liken it to airport security. You're annoyed about the inconvenience but take comfort that they are at least doing something about it. RE: Macro - avoiding false accusations - Meg - 2011-07-22 Thanks for this topic Jon, it saddens me that you got banned for this even though it has since been removed its still a very scary thing to have happen and for some people they're unlucky and don't get their accounts back or get reset - my jaw literally hit the floor when I received your PM yesterday and I lost so much faith in Jagex - unfortunately I doubt since your accusation I will ever get it back RE: Macro - avoiding false accusations - Dallar - 2011-07-22 I would also believe that having your private chat set to friends or offline has caused a few unfair reports on my account aswell. There's not much to do tbh. I have never botted and if I get banned for something like that, I'll bring out the big guns and head to the headquarters to state my frustration. RE: Macro - avoiding false accusations - Tay - 2011-07-22 Wait, what? Did Jagex seriously suspend you for "botting"..? O_o RE: Macro - avoiding false accusations - Portus - 2011-07-22 It really is ridiculous lol. It looks like the best away to avoid a ban is to, well, bot. RE: Macro - avoiding false accusations - Stev3 - 2011-07-22 It's a little ridiculous that Jagex expects us to act a certain way while partaking in activities at LRC and etc. It is their job to CORRECTLY seek out bots. We should not have to worry about being falsely banned. Jagex is a joke of the MMO world. RE: Macro - avoiding false accusations - Meg - 2011-07-22 (2011-07-22 12:07:19)Portus Wrote: It really is ridiculous lol. It looks like the best away to avoid a ban is to, well, bot. ^ This, known botters we've come across yet still not banned yet honest players are getting banned lol Stupid. RE: Macro - avoiding false accusations - Mikuri - 2011-07-22 (2011-07-22 12:58:56)Stev3 Wrote: It's a little ridiculous that Jagex expects us to act a certain way while partaking in activities at LRC and etc. It is their job to CORRECTLY seek out bots. We should not have to worry about being falsely banned. Jagex is a joke of the MMO world. Exactly, why us, honest players, should fear being banned? C'mon Jagex, get REAL evidence before doing anything to us... That's the worst part for me. Mayday, we have a problem. RE: Macro - avoiding false accusations - AlchemyHawk - 2011-07-22 I still feel bad for you Jon. If I got banned I would raqequitflytojagexkilleveryone. RE: Macro - avoiding false accusations - Shay - 2011-07-22 Yeah, I've lost a lot of faith in Jagex and their bot detection system, to be honest. I don't want to turn this into a Jagex-bashing thread but they really do need to revamp their system instead of lying to us saying, "We will not reset/suspend anyone unless we are 100% sure they are botting." I stood by this statement for the longest time and now it's safe to say that with recent resets/banning/suspensions, I'm done backing their "excellent" system up. Anyway, that being said, I still don't know exactly what sets off the bot detection flags. Of course they don't want us knowing, otherwise botters could build their macros to go around these detection methods. But, to me, I don't see how multiple false reports for botting can lead to a suspension... unless it has changed. About 4 years ago, a J-mod was offering to tell people how many times they got reported, so I took the bait. He told me my account was reported 108 times alone for botting (I didn't talk much back then, so everyone and their cat reported me). 108 times and I was never held accountable for it. That is why I have constantly told people to this day that you shouldn't be paranoid about people threatening to report you, because you can rack up so many false reports and still be okay. But, like I said... this may have changed. It really is sad when you are paranoid to play a game just because you're afraid of getting reported falsely. Jagex really needs to fix their system because it's causing their loyal players to cower in fear or even just flat out quit because of the outrageous claims against their accounts which turn out to be false. Thanks for the guide Jon, it is much appreciated. It's just sad that it has to come to this, really. Sorry for the long post, but if I have an opinion about something, I'm not afraid to share it. Especially when it's threatening our clan members... just frustrates me so much. Edit: To add something else into the guide if I may, I recommend mentioning that mousekeys, if used in a certain way, are classified as botting. It is not posted directly in the rules because Jagex keeps putting it off, but they have told us directly that if you use mousekeys a certain way, you will face consequences eventually. Good mouse keys = 1 key press per action. Bad mouse keys = 1 key press for multiple actions. As long as you are doing one action per button, you're fine, like pressing the 5 key to alch over and over. However, if you're using mousekeys to do 2-3 things for one key press, it's considered macroing. Just a heads-up. |